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- From: rmcinnis@gate.net (Robert B McInnis)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools.mfc
- Subject: Re: How much to charge?
- Date: 12 Apr 1996 13:38:50 GMT
- Organization: 9th Bit Software
- Message-ID: <4klmda$t5a@news.gate.net>
- References: <dQuZrHAb2$XxEw3a@mics.demon.co.uk> <4jv1fl$hcb@news.microsoft.com>
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- In article <4jv1fl$hcb@news.microsoft.com>,
- mikeblas@microsoft.com (Mike Blaszczak) wrote:
- >In article <dQuZrHAb2$XxEw3a@mics.demon.co.uk>, Bill@mics.demon.co.uk says...
- >
- >>How much cash should I ask for, and on what basis should it be paid?
- >
- >That's a really funny question. I work at Microsoft, and I draw a pretty
- >decent salary. Some of the rumours you hear about stock options are true.
- <snip>
- <General work over-load statements>
- <snip>
- >
- >So, it would seem to me that people expect you to do all sorts of work
- >for free. They're not happy with giveaways, and they're not interested
- >in answers or help; they're just interested in their anger.
-
- Sounds to me that you are unhappy with your current compensation scale. The
- slides, presentations, design docs, trips, late night panic help calls, etc..
- that I do, I do because its part of the job. If you are complaining, its
- because you're realizing you failed to properly estimate the level of
- commitment your customer (Microsoft) was expecting.
-
- RAISE YOUR RATE!!!!!
-
- If your customer seems unhappy now, then imagine what would happen if you
- left! They'd be even more upset. If you feel unjustly compensated, raise
- your rate, tell your customer why. Be honest. Of course, be ready to leave
- if they don't want it to raise. Not to leave would be a loss of "face" in the
- eyes of the customer, and you will no longer get respect.
-
- You must honestly judge yourself in relation to others in the field, their pay
- scale, and make a judgement what you should be making. This requires
- communication. Maybe a 'net based rate scale would be useful. Somewhere we'd
- all be able to gauge ourselves, the area, and the rates we should be asking.
- Remember, this is an industry that make BILLIONS, and we are the ones making
- the product. No marketer, manager, or share holder, just us geeks. Shouldn't
- we make the cash?
-
- 13 weeks of my work (and 2 friends), net'd my customer over US$ 5 million, 6
- months after release. This was a small nothing piece of niche software.
- There were 2 marketeers, 2 managers, and an out sourced production company.
- It doesn't take much in our industry to make a bundle.
-
- This was just my US$ 10 worth (rate increase applied :)
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- Rob
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